you would think they would target a government building, federal building, irs building, government facility, the kind of indiscriminate terror we say yesterday, women and children, an eight-year-old killed, this is hall mark of islamic style attacks which means, these guys follow up and you're talking about no claim of responsibility? that is very interesting. perhaps whoever did it, didn't issue a claim of responsibility because there's more in the works forbid. >> neil: in the case of the oklahoma city bombing, that was done by an american, terry nichols, he claimed no immediate responsibility. so i guess i have tough time distinguishing -- i guess in the scheme of things, a bad guy is a bad guy, whether home grown or not but is there any telltale sign you look for to try to distinguish whether that is something grown here or elsewhere? >> i think the main thing here will be, is there an overseas link? did these guys, whoever was behind it, someone who trained in pakistan? >> neil: what does your gut tell you? >> my gut tells me this is an islamic terror attack. i may be wrong. i can't sa